Soooooo it's finally here the worth 20 min listen..
Oh wow you've got perfect quotes for every circumstances Sir.
At first i thought... "Wait i feel seen. Ok this is just about me. You overconfident indolent girl. You just made fun of writing in the face of writers with your niche-less writing and oh my God a bathroom singer is better in singing than you and your writing. How in the world you think you can write" Bang bang bang one after another all shots made holes in my head.
Fine then Sara 'As You Like It' go 'wear the lemon juice' and see if you can hide.
Wait am i also in the fan club for shadow #7. Am i living in Plato's cave. Is there anything beyond this dark cave. Should i move from that spot and explore 3D reality and search for the sun or just believe this digital 2D is enough to belief. MmHmmmm.... Where's the map for exit?!
I tell you with my utmost honesty i was so deep in thoughts and in your calm calm guiding buttttttt my phone jumped in my hand the moment i heard you "By the beard of Zeus, the shadows are fake!” i almost lost all my thoughts but thank God i was writing this commentary as was proceeding so ahhhh sigh of relief.
Ok i'm guilty of living in a bubble too. Yes it's very depressing outside. And the more i know i can't do anything about it the more depressing it gets. So better stay out of what you can't change.
And i used to say every intelligent must pay the price of their intelligence. And the full price is over observing->oversensitivity->overthinking.
"You know nothing!" If this can half the price then yes i know absolutely nothing.
And if this planet is flat then my skull is also flat. 😂
Wingspan. I never heard of it too. Though my right arm->hand->palm-fingers are very slightly longer than my left one. Weird enough. Maybe it's time to figure out why, it can be to equal my height. Thanks to your daughter I'm curious to measure it now.
Yup looking at a picture from different angles, every angle reveals a different side of story.
“Why do I believe this? What evidence would change my mind? Have I considered other explanations?”
Now this is called free thinking. That's where you either leave your belief or find new evidences to prove your beliefs. Just like your daughter give us an evidence of her belief. Now we all believe her belief.
"known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns." It's quite a tongue twister for me. How come everyone says it so smoothly.
I agree with you mentor.
Don't take your writing too seriously Sara. Just laugh at your flaws and faults. But don't repeat.
I wish substack make an audio restack too so i could restack the voice over of “you’ve got it all figured out.” 😜
And so finally i found a map at the end of it for the exit of Plato's cave.
Ooops i got carried away again while writing this comment. Lemme stop here or it might become a 20 min long response.
I very much enjoyed listening to this one as well. That i listened to it twice.
haha thanks Sarah, I laughed out loud. I had forgotten the way I said “By the beard of Zeus” as I recorded this a couple of weeks ago 😂
I don't necessarily feel that bubble living is a bad thing, if it helps you stop overthinking the things you can't change then there's no harm in it.
I'm acutely aware when it comes to the things I worry about there are "Practical worries", the ones I can do something about and "Impractical worries" the ones that I have absolutely no control over, so... why worry about them.
Get the tape measure out, we must know if your wingspan is equal to your height!
I set several tongue twisters for myself, some I did on purpose, others nearly tripped me up without realising!
Don't take anything too seriously, there's a light hearted side to almost everything if you look hard enough. Sometimes you only see it long afterwards. If you can remain upbeat in the face of adversity and hardship, you might just be able to convince others to do the same, if by nothing other than your attitude. You certainly manage to put this across in your writing so I bet you do it in real life too!
Today i dreamt of measuring my wingspan and in my dream my wingspan was longer and getting longer and longer the more i stretched my arms. gosh the tape reached its end and my wingspan didn't stop stretching. I thought "absolutely it won't be equal to my height right" thank God i woke up before measuring my height who knows what would've happened then 🤦
But have you measured it yet?! You don't have to use a tape, just lie on the floor, arms outstretched holding two items (shoes perhaps)to mark the tips of your fingers, then lie in the gap. (This mental image has me chuckling!)
Good job you woke up, you might still be stretching!
It is long, Mark, but wonderfully well-written. Bringing the Dunning-Kruger effect and Plato’s Allegory of the Cave together, and making that relevant to our current reality, is such a perfect blend. You’ve shown how both our environment and our inner dispositions work to keep us in ignorance. What a combo, huh?
The other day, a song by Alanis Morissette played on the radio, and she says, “I too thought that when proved wrong, I lost somehow.” This is it, right? When all we hear is "be confident, be confident, otherwise you're weak," we become inflexible. We adopt a competitive stance in life, always thinking we’re scoring points, and we feel the need to win every time.
But your interaction with your daughter says it all. You didn’t believe her statement, but you were open to challenging your belief anyway. That’s the key, right there: the willingness to test, question, and even be proved wrong.
Honestly I don't mind admitting being wrong, because the alternative is stubborn doubling down on being wrong and that's no example to set either with children or at work.
As long as there are people willing to point out and explain when we are wrong I think we do a pretty good job of learning from each other as a whole.
I've just listened to that song and looked at the lyrics, she's basically just singing an essay, I've not heard it before, I'm not sure I'd have managed to pull any meaning from the song on the radio but yet, that line nails it.
It might feel good to be right, but it should also feel good to be wrong and stand corrected, because now you are right!
I'm keeping this line, Mark: "It might feel good to be right, but it should also feel good to be wrong and stand corrected, because now you are right!" <3
It puts a very positive spin on being humble and growing because of it.
Thanks a lot for the mention, Mark! Honestly, I’m flattered!
Really enjoyed your take on the labyrinth of ignorance, super interesting read.
I particularly try to practice #5 and #8 regularly to keep my ignorance in check and to accept it 😅
Funny enough, just this morning I was chatting with a friend, we had different opinions, and at some point I realized he was right and I was wrong. Told him, we moved on. Then I joked, “Well, that’s the only way I can get you to change topics!” 😄
Haha yes there's no agree to disagree with some people, they'll be on at you until they turn you, even if they are wrong!
If I had seen it before I had finished I'd have added it to the DK section as it's such a helpful way of visualising it. But I honestly couldn't face rewriting any part of it so I put it in at the end as a much needed pallette cleanser. A picture says a thousand words after all!
Thanks Cole. I’m actually just listening to yours and I could very much say the same, you could absolutely be a narrator, and I can absolutely hear “close your eyes, take a few deep breaths” that kind of guided meditation / relaxation voice.
Soooooo it's finally here the worth 20 min listen..
Oh wow you've got perfect quotes for every circumstances Sir.
At first i thought... "Wait i feel seen. Ok this is just about me. You overconfident indolent girl. You just made fun of writing in the face of writers with your niche-less writing and oh my God a bathroom singer is better in singing than you and your writing. How in the world you think you can write" Bang bang bang one after another all shots made holes in my head.
Fine then Sara 'As You Like It' go 'wear the lemon juice' and see if you can hide.
Wait am i also in the fan club for shadow #7. Am i living in Plato's cave. Is there anything beyond this dark cave. Should i move from that spot and explore 3D reality and search for the sun or just believe this digital 2D is enough to belief. MmHmmmm.... Where's the map for exit?!
I tell you with my utmost honesty i was so deep in thoughts and in your calm calm guiding buttttttt my phone jumped in my hand the moment i heard you "By the beard of Zeus, the shadows are fake!” i almost lost all my thoughts but thank God i was writing this commentary as was proceeding so ahhhh sigh of relief.
Ok i'm guilty of living in a bubble too. Yes it's very depressing outside. And the more i know i can't do anything about it the more depressing it gets. So better stay out of what you can't change.
And i used to say every intelligent must pay the price of their intelligence. And the full price is over observing->oversensitivity->overthinking.
"You know nothing!" If this can half the price then yes i know absolutely nothing.
And if this planet is flat then my skull is also flat. 😂
Wingspan. I never heard of it too. Though my right arm->hand->palm-fingers are very slightly longer than my left one. Weird enough. Maybe it's time to figure out why, it can be to equal my height. Thanks to your daughter I'm curious to measure it now.
Yup looking at a picture from different angles, every angle reveals a different side of story.
“Why do I believe this? What evidence would change my mind? Have I considered other explanations?”
Now this is called free thinking. That's where you either leave your belief or find new evidences to prove your beliefs. Just like your daughter give us an evidence of her belief. Now we all believe her belief.
"known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns." It's quite a tongue twister for me. How come everyone says it so smoothly.
I agree with you mentor.
Don't take your writing too seriously Sara. Just laugh at your flaws and faults. But don't repeat.
I wish substack make an audio restack too so i could restack the voice over of “you’ve got it all figured out.” 😜
And so finally i found a map at the end of it for the exit of Plato's cave.
Ooops i got carried away again while writing this comment. Lemme stop here or it might become a 20 min long response.
I very much enjoyed listening to this one as well. That i listened to it twice.
Till next listen....
haha thanks Sarah, I laughed out loud. I had forgotten the way I said “By the beard of Zeus” as I recorded this a couple of weeks ago 😂
I don't necessarily feel that bubble living is a bad thing, if it helps you stop overthinking the things you can't change then there's no harm in it.
I'm acutely aware when it comes to the things I worry about there are "Practical worries", the ones I can do something about and "Impractical worries" the ones that I have absolutely no control over, so... why worry about them.
Get the tape measure out, we must know if your wingspan is equal to your height!
I set several tongue twisters for myself, some I did on purpose, others nearly tripped me up without realising!
Don't take anything too seriously, there's a light hearted side to almost everything if you look hard enough. Sometimes you only see it long afterwards. If you can remain upbeat in the face of adversity and hardship, you might just be able to convince others to do the same, if by nothing other than your attitude. You certainly manage to put this across in your writing so I bet you do it in real life too!
And also "but i wore the juice" 😂
Today i dreamt of measuring my wingspan and in my dream my wingspan was longer and getting longer and longer the more i stretched my arms. gosh the tape reached its end and my wingspan didn't stop stretching. I thought "absolutely it won't be equal to my height right" thank God i woke up before measuring my height who knows what would've happened then 🤦
But have you measured it yet?! You don't have to use a tape, just lie on the floor, arms outstretched holding two items (shoes perhaps)to mark the tips of your fingers, then lie in the gap. (This mental image has me chuckling!)
Good job you woke up, you might still be stretching!
Wa' wa' wa' it's sooooo easy i'm gonna act upon it right awaaaaaay 😲
You would be laughing out loud if you see how i'm mentally jumping with excitement 🦘
🦘 did you hop to it? Did it match? Or are you an outlier?
A l o n g post certainly required an equally long response. And you did justice to it.
She always does, we are still having conversations in the comments section of posts published months ago!
🤣 oh yessss sometimes when i check which post is this that we got into endless replying and it's a month ago post then i 🙊🙉🙈
Thank you Sir Ashok 😁🙌
If it served the purpose Mission Accomplished then.
It is long, Mark, but wonderfully well-written. Bringing the Dunning-Kruger effect and Plato’s Allegory of the Cave together, and making that relevant to our current reality, is such a perfect blend. You’ve shown how both our environment and our inner dispositions work to keep us in ignorance. What a combo, huh?
The other day, a song by Alanis Morissette played on the radio, and she says, “I too thought that when proved wrong, I lost somehow.” This is it, right? When all we hear is "be confident, be confident, otherwise you're weak," we become inflexible. We adopt a competitive stance in life, always thinking we’re scoring points, and we feel the need to win every time.
But your interaction with your daughter says it all. You didn’t believe her statement, but you were open to challenging your belief anyway. That’s the key, right there: the willingness to test, question, and even be proved wrong.
Honestly I don't mind admitting being wrong, because the alternative is stubborn doubling down on being wrong and that's no example to set either with children or at work.
As long as there are people willing to point out and explain when we are wrong I think we do a pretty good job of learning from each other as a whole.
I've just listened to that song and looked at the lyrics, she's basically just singing an essay, I've not heard it before, I'm not sure I'd have managed to pull any meaning from the song on the radio but yet, that line nails it.
It might feel good to be right, but it should also feel good to be wrong and stand corrected, because now you are right!
I'm keeping this line, Mark: "It might feel good to be right, but it should also feel good to be wrong and stand corrected, because now you are right!" <3
It puts a very positive spin on being humble and growing because of it.
I'd have put a bit more effort in if I had know 😜
How about: Celebrating being right is fine, but never fear being wrong, it's a chance to learn and grow. 🤷♂️
It’s even better! :)
Thanks a lot for the mention, Mark! Honestly, I’m flattered!
Really enjoyed your take on the labyrinth of ignorance, super interesting read.
I particularly try to practice #5 and #8 regularly to keep my ignorance in check and to accept it 😅
Funny enough, just this morning I was chatting with a friend, we had different opinions, and at some point I realized he was right and I was wrong. Told him, we moved on. Then I joked, “Well, that’s the only way I can get you to change topics!” 😄
Haha yes there's no agree to disagree with some people, they'll be on at you until they turn you, even if they are wrong!
If I had seen it before I had finished I'd have added it to the DK section as it's such a helpful way of visualising it. But I honestly couldn't face rewriting any part of it so I put it in at the end as a much needed pallette cleanser. A picture says a thousand words after all!
Your artwork is awesome Tom!
In awe of your amazing voice!
Thanks Cole. I’m actually just listening to yours and I could very much say the same, you could absolutely be a narrator, and I can absolutely hear “close your eyes, take a few deep breaths” that kind of guided meditation / relaxation voice.
I enjoyed both reading and listening, Mark. Reading was indeed more immersive as I could pause, go back a few lines, ponder and proceed.
Thanks Ashok, I appreciate you taking the time!